Pay-Per-Profit (Final Update)

| May 13, 2019 | Reply


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£25 each time the profit hits 15-points or over. After each round the profit is reset to zero and the process starts again.

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None mentioned.

What Do You Get?

Win and each way singles delivered by Telegram messenger app. There are three groups – morning, evening and live – to suit most people’s preference for the timing of bet delivery.

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How Much Money Do I Need to Get Started?

No bank is mentioned by the service, so I’ve used a 100-point bank (per group) for the purposes of the review.

How Much Money Can I Make?

This is a new service so there is no history to go on in terms of what might be achievable. The length of time to make each 15-point return will vary with the volume of selections and the strike rate/odds.

How Much Time Will I Need to Make This Work?

The selections tend to come one at a time and are win or each way singles, so it takes literally a minute to place the bet. The ability to choose the group which best suits your own lifestyle helps to ensure bets are received at convenient times for you.

Will I Need Any Equipment to Do This?

A laptop, PC, tablet or smartphone with internet connectivity and access to a range of bookmaker accounts. You will also need the free Telegram messenger app to receive the tips.

Value for Money?

The concept of paying when the profit is delivered means the onus is on the tipster to earn his keep. However, just because you’re paying on results doesn’t automatically mean VFM. I’ll make a final assessment at the end of the three months. Two rounds were completed during the review period delivering a combined total profit of 45.59 points – the first round significantly exceeding the 15-point target with both selections winning on the final day. At £25 per round this would have delivered over £400 clear profit at £10 per point stakes. Had the first round not delivered such an excess gain then the net profit per round would be £125 at £10 per point stakes ((15 points x £10) – £25). Still a definite VFM pass for this service.

NB – The price has increased from the next round to £40 per 15-points (guaranteed not to increase again for the next six rounds). If each round delivers exactly 15-points profit then the net gain at £10 per point stakes would now be £110 per round.

Quality of Customer Service?

PuntHub generally claim to respond to all e-mails within 12-hours, but this has not been tested. However, there is a chat group for all three of the Pay-Per-Profit groups and this tends to get quick responses from Ben who runs the groups.


Pay-Per-Profit from PuntHub is an alternative approach to the traditional subscription-based service. The concept is that you join a group at the start of a new round and once the group has achieved 15+ points profit you pay the £25 fee. A new round is then formed and the process repeats again. If a round is already running you will be put on the waiting list for the next round to start for that group. The big benefit here is that the onus is on the tipster to deliver in order to get paid.

There are three separate groups based on when the selections are delivered:
• Evening Group – tips delivered the evening before racing
• Morning Group – tips are delivered on the morning of racing
• Live Group – tips are delivered anytime on the day of racing up until the last race of the day

The selections are sent by Telegram messenger, a free app which can be downloaded from the App Store.

A round can last for any length of time, it depends on the volume of bets and the success rate. As an example, the first round of the evening group took 14 bets over a 22-day period, whilst the second round for that group took just eight days with four out of four winners.

The evening group appears to be by far the most active in terms of the number of selections.

Since its inception in mid-December last year the evening group has now concluded four rounds of 15+ points (see results section below). Over the course of the four rounds there has been a total of 40 bets and a total profit of 74.88 points according to the results on the website.

The morning group is still on its first round, whilst the live group is struggling in its second round.

Just as I posted the first month’s review, PuntHub took the decision to amalgamate all of the selections into the evening group and close the morning and live groups (subject to some final reconciliation).

Results – Month 1 (11th February to 10th March 2019)

The conclusion of the current round of the evening group coincided with the end of the first month of the review. The final three bets of the round all won to take the cumulative profit over 23 points, which triggered the end of the round and the payment of £25 per member. The first few tips of the round were prior to the start of the review period but comprised two losers and a non-runner.

If we include the four-point loss from those earlier runners then the net return from this round of bets was £207.30 to £10 stakes, a Return on Investment (ROI) of 81.08%. Of course, the returns on this round are higher because the last two winners took the final total well over the 15-point target.

The strike rate for the whole Pay-Per-Profit (Evening) round was 33.33% (5/15).

In contrast, the morning group has had just two losing selections and a non-runner in the first month of the review, and the live group has had five straight losers.

Results – Month 2 (11th March to 10th April 2019)

Although this month had been in profit up to 13.85 points at one stage, it didn’t trigger another payment. The 15-point target was tantalising close, only for the profit to fall away slightly, although by the end of the month it had recovered to 11.23 points.

Of the 30 selections this month, six won to give a strike rate of 20%, well down on last month’s 38.46%. This shows the level of volatility there will be in hitting the 15-point target in different rounds. Last month, the target was hit in just 16 bets, with an ROI (Return on Investment) of 97.25%. This month we are still waiting after 30 bets and the current ROI is down at 18.41%.

Results – Month 3 (11th April to 10th May 2019)

The remaining points required to close out Round 5 finally arrived courtesy of three winners from four selections on 20th April. This triggered the next £25 payment and led to a gap of six days between tips as the admin was undertaken to collect the payments and get people signed up for the next round.  There is talk of introducing a new credit system to avoid such delays between rounds.

The current round has started slowly and at the end of our three-month review period sat on minus nine-points after 21 bets. 

The return on investment (ROI) across the two completed rounds was 38.75%, this nets down to 32.84% after deducting the cost of the two rounds, assuming £10 per point stakes. This will obviously fluctuate between rounds depending on the length of time taken to hit the 15-point mark.

The overall win strike rate across the review period was 25% from selections with average odds of just over 7/1 (8.11). The average odds of the winning selections was half-a-point lower at 7.61 (just over 13/2) and ranged from 5/4 (2.25) to 28/1 (29.0).

Summary at End of Month 1

Whilst I can see the logic in attempting to offer the best delivery time to suit individuals, it is quite apparent from the first month of the review that the best value is found the evening before racing, hence the disproportionate amount of action in the evening group. That said, the first month of results for the evening group are very encouraging and support the historic results from the first three rounds.

Summary at End of Month 2

The closure of the morning and live groups came as no surprise given what had been witnessed in the first month of the review. This month continues to be profitable, although it didn’t break the 15-point barrier and this round carries over into the next month of the review.

Summary at End of Month 3

The two completed rounds during the review period showed an excellent ROI, although this was helped somewhat by the first round profit going way beyond the 15-point target. Notwithstanding that, the potential of this service is clear to see.


A breakdown of the results for the evening group during the review period are available here.


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