Draw Profits (Final Update)

| December 19, 2018 | Reply


Product Name:

Draw Profits

Company Name & Contact Details:

John Baker


Monthly membership is priced at £37 per month. There is a quarterly option available at £87 every three-months, a saving of 21.6%, or an annual membership at £277, a saving of 37.6% over 12 individual monthly subscriptions.

The first month is available at the trial price of £6.95 prior to any of the three options.

Money Back Guarantee:

Yes, a 30-day unconditional money-back guarantee is provided.

What Do You Get?

Selections from football leagues, and internationals, around the world with a high probability of a draw and offering value.

Where to Buy:


How Much Money Do I Need to Get Started?

A 50-point starting bank is recommended.

How Much Money Can I Make?

There are no outlandish claims made by the service and historic results suggest an average profit of four to five points per month is likely.

How Much Time Will I Need to Make This Work?

John provides the selections with an average odds quoted and reports results to those average prices. If you wanted to hunt down the best prices for each selection it will take a bit longer, but you are only looking at minutes per day. On busier days there can be seven or eight selections, so around 10-minutes would still suffice even if you seek out the best prices.

Will I Need Any Equipment to Do This?

The usual PC, laptop, tablet or smart phone with internet connection and access to a range of online bookmaker accounts is recommended.

Value for Money?

Too early for a definitive answer so we’ll come back to this at the end of three months, but early signs are good. Although there was an overall profit from the selections, this would not have covered the costs of the subscriptions at anything less than £30 per point stakes. At £50 per point stakes there was a net profit of £82.50. It is very much borderline for VFM based on the review. 

Quality of Customer Service?

The website promotes “prompt, courteous customer support” and I have always found John’s services to live up to this claim. Emails are answered within 24-hours and often sooner.


Back in February to April this year we carried out a review of John Baker’s Draw Doubles, which was the precursor of Draw Profits. Although the conclusion of that review wasn’t favourable to Draw Doubles it did refer to the possibility of backing only singles which had been showing a good rate of return. On 1st August this year John took the decision to close Draw Doubles and relaunch it as Draw Profits, backing the singles only.

From the outside looking in this was absolutely the right way to go, and the new service has made a promising start as it continues to maintain a strike rate above 33%.

The tips are generated by a predictive software system which utilises a sophisticated selection criteria to identify the matches with an increased likelihood of ending in a draw.

Selections are sent by email around 6a.m. each day, although they may occasionally appear the evening before if there is an early kick off the next day. The number of picks on each day is very much dependent on the fixtures around the world and can range from “no bet” in the quiet periods to seven or eight on a busy day.

The email lists the competition, the kick off time, the teams and the average odds for each selection. There is also a results summary at the foot of each mail detailing the current month position and the cumulative position since 14th October 2017.

14th October 2017 is significant as it was the original launch date for Draw Doubles and the results for backing the singles alone have been reworked to give this history. A full breakdown of the selections since the original launch are available on the website.

The fact that John quotes average odds for each match, and uses these for the results monitoring, means that with a little bit of extra effort you can easily improve on these outcomes by searching out better odds for each selection.

John Baker is also the author of Banker Bets, which is currently coming to the end of its three-month review with us, and he has over 15-years experience to bring to bear on this service.
Both John’s services are easy to follow, well run and refreshing in their approach to marketing.

Results – Month 1 (17th September to 16th October 2018)

Of the 103 selections in the first month of the review, 36 (34.95%) ended in a draw. At average odds of 3.27 (c.9/4) this gave rise to a profit of 12.72 points, which is significantly ahead of the historic monthly average claimed.

With a Return on Investment (ROI) of 12.35%, and a Return on Capital (ROC) of 25.44%, this was an excellent first month to the review.

After a slow start to the period, with three winners in the first 12 bets, and a cumulative loss of a couple of points, the remainder of the month made steady forward progress with no substantial losing runs.

Results – Month 2 (17th October to 16th November 2018)

This month looked on course for another profit before a run of just four winners in 29 games torpedoed the progress. Some order was restored, however, as the same number of draws were hit in the last six games of the period. Overall, the strike rate this month dropped to 29.63% and, with the average odds of the selections remaining fairly constant at 3.35 (c.9/4), we ended the month with a small loss of 2.91 points.

This still leaves us with a cumulative profit of 9.81 points after the two months, which is very much in line with the 4-5 points monthly average profit that the service suggests is achievable over the long term.

Cumulatively we have seen an ROI (Return on Investment) of 4.12% and a Return on Capital (ROC) of 19.62%.

With no international break in November we may see the number of selections in the month increase. This month there were 135 selections in total and we saw days with eight selections and other days with none.

Results – Month 3 (17th November to 16th December 2018)

With the strike rate and average odds (overall and winners) being very similar to last month, the only difference between the two was the number of selections. This fell by 27 this month and resulted in a slightly higher loss than last month at -5.94 points. That still leaves us with an overall profit of 3.87 points for the three months, which isn’t a million miles away from the average 4-5 points profit the service expects to deliver over the longer-term. 

I still get the feeling that I have seen enough from Draw Profits, and previously from the singles in Draw Doubles, to suggest that the 4-5 points per month average is achievable. The first month of the review certainly should what a difference a few extra goals the right way can make.

However, getting back to the cold hard facts and the wins this month were spread fairly evenly through the period, with the worst run we saw being three wins in 19 selections. Once again this was offset by some nice clusters of wins as well.

The strike rate overall finished at 30.92% which is none too shabby for hitting the draw. The average odds of selections over three months was 3.33, with the average odds of the winning selections never deviating far from this number either.

As mentioned above under “Value For Money?”, although there was an overall profit from the selections, this would not have covered the costs of the subscriptions at anything less than £30 per point stakes. At £50 per point stakes there was a net profit of £82.50. 

Similarly, the net ROI and ROC for the review period fluctuate between a small negative and a small positive depending on the level of staking.

Summary at End of Month 1

The potential from the draw singles was already evident when we reviewed Draw Doubles, and the change in approach seems to be paying dividends. An excellent start to the review.

Summary at End of Month 2

Although this month didn’t hit the highs of Month 1, it didn’t do too much damage either, and the average monthly profit of 4.905 points is in line with the 4-5 points average suggested by the service.

Summary at End of Month 3

Although the profit all came in one month, the other two were far from disastrous, and with an overall average profit of 1.29 points per month for the review the long-term target of 4-5 points per month is certainly still achievable. I would want to take a longer view of this service before making a conclusive decision one way or the other. However, I have to give an opinion based on the three months of the review and on that basis alone would award Draw Profits a two and a half-star rating.


The full list of results for the review can be found here.


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