The Inside Rail Review

| June 7, 2013 | 4 Replies

They say…

“All 4 of our services are extremely profitable, and we pride ourselves as being one of the cheapest, and certainly the best available anywhere on the net

We say…

The latest product that my team will be taking a look at in the coming weeks is The Inside Rail by “Rob”.

So, what is The Inside Rail? Well, it’s a horse racing advice service that offers 4 separate packages; Form Guru, Gold Service, Pro Punt and Lay Service.

We’ve ordered our copy and our review will be along shortly – sign up to our twitter feed to be the first to hear about it.

Each service costs £35/month individually, or you can get access to all four services for £75 a month. There is a 30 day free trial available for all four services but no money back guarantee available.

If you have any questions you can contact the support team at

The Inside Rail,
102 Albion Street,
Cheltenham
GL52RQ
Email: info@theinsiderail.co.uk

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INITIAL THOUGHTS

The people at Inside Rail run 4 services and we will be looking at all four of them over the next couple of months.

The Form Guru
This is a form based service from the best form reader in the country and they claim to have had 10 winning years in a row with very few losing months.
These selections come with what you should stake on each of them and analysis of why its a bet.

The Gold Service
This is completely the opposite to the Form Guru as this service is 100% information based, and only the most confident pieces of information are given out as bets.
With these again you will be given the number of points you should stake on the selections.
The service which was set up in 2011 is said to have made over 400pts profit in the first year from just 4-6 selections per week.
A very big statement to make indeed.

The Pro Punt Service
This is aimed at the punter who wants fewer bets and you can expect around 8-10 bets per month.
It claims a profit every year since its launch in 2000 with a 90% strike rate on its maximum bets.

The Lay Service
This was only launched in Oct 2011 and is 100% information based and has a very high strike rate.
You are given the name of the horse to be layed and the odds available on Betfair.

Ok folks these are all four of the services I will be looking at commencing on Tuesday, as I have already been told that there will be no email on Monday, and to be honest it looks like the only winner at the moment is the weather.
So I will be back hopefully on Tuesday evening with our first lot of results.

FINAL THOUGHTS

Our 2 month trial has come to an end and we have been reviewing all 4 of the services that are provided by The Inside Rail.
I have decided to cover the worst first and build up to the best of the services.
The 4 services that we took a look at were;
The Form Guru Service
The Gold Service
The Pro Punt Service
The Lay Service

I will start with the Lay service as this has been the poorest of them by some way.
The Lay Service

We were given only 11 horses to lay in the 2 month period and this was due to their lay man not giving many bets, and then they dropped him in favour of the form guru guy and things didnt get any better.
As I said we had 11 horses to lay of which 7 of them went on to win the race with just 4 being beaten.
A rather dismal 36% strike rate.
A loss of 10.49pts to a level 1pt lay.
A loss of £433.50 to advised stakes and prices.
Overall a pretty dismal effort.

Next up is
The Pro Punt Service

We were told that we could expect 8 to 10 bets per month but in fact we only recieved 10 bets in the 2 month period.
The 10 bets didnt fare too well either as we only managed a paltry 2 winners for a loss of 3.25pts to advised stakes.
A pretty poor effort again with only a 20% strike rate, and 7 of the bets not managing to get in the first 3.

So after 2 very poor efforts we finally come to a service that performed rather better.

The Gold Service

With this service we were told to expect 4 to 6 bets per week all based purely on information and only the strongest would be used to advise bets.
We did in fact recieve 27 bets of which 8 won a 29% strike rate and a profit of 33.97pts was made to advised stakes.
Its fair to say that this service did perform and made a nice profit.

Our final service is;

The Form Guru Service

This service was without doubt the best performer of the 2 month trial.
We were given 217 bets of which 26 won, a strike rate of 12%, of those 217 bets 32% of them were placed.
What you need to keep in mind is that most of these bets are at big prices, and we have had winners at 22/1 20/1 14/1 12/1 10/1.
What you also need to understand is that there will be long runs when you are not getting placed, and the longest runs during the trial were 29 bets without a winner, and 14 bets without being placed.
So as you can see you are backing horses at value odds, and have to expect these sorts of runs.
There is no advice given to what size of bank you should use, but I would personally use a bank in the region of 200pts.
This should be enough to keep you going, and also keep the pressure off when a losing run hits.

As I have said we had 217 bets with 26 winners and a profit of 121.07pts to advised stakes.
We did hit a high of 141.57pts, but the last few days didnt go as well as we would have liked.
I am not foolish enough to think that this performance was the norm and to expect to make over 50pts profit each month, but I have been reliably informed by a member that over a 2 year period he has made an average of over 20pts per month.

Some of the problems I have had with the services is that you never know what time the emails will arrive, and this is frustrating as you are constantly having to check your emails.
Also with these services its important to get the best odds possible, and again quite often the odds quoted in the emails are not there.
I have mentioned this to Rob who runs The Inside Rail, and to be honest his reply back to me didnt really hold much water,I dont think that there is any excuse for not ensuring that the odds quoted in the emails are freely available to members, after all I am sure that they will be the odds that are used for the profit account.

I personally think that the customer service for The Inside Rail could and should be improved to ensure that the customer is king.
The profits I have quoted have been to the prices that were readily available to memebers, and I have to thank my friend who is a member for checking those prices for me every day, it really was a big help.

Ok so to close;

The Lay Service
Very poor
FAILED

The Prop Punt Service
Poor
FAILED

The Gold Service

A good effort and a nice 33.97pts profit
APPROVED

The Form Guru Service
Again a very good effort and a very nice 121pts profit
APPROVED

I think that for a monthly cost of £35 that the Form Guru & Gold Service are good value for money and definately worth a look.

Saturday 25th May

This is the last day of the trial and i will put up my final thoughts and figures in a few days time.

The Form Guru Service

York 2.55 Judge N Jury 1pt EW @ 12/1 UNpl 8/1
Good 3.05 Moldowney 2pts WIN @ 9/2 Unpl 4/1
York 4.00 Pintrada 2pts WIN @ 9/1 Unpl 12/1
Hay 4.55 Oneladyowner 2pts WIN @ 7/1 Unpl 15/2
Hay 4.55 Springinmystep 1pt WIN @ 11/1 Unpl 9/1
Hay 5.30 Zacynthus 2pts WIN @ 5/1 2nd 7/2
Unfortunately a blank day to end the trial and a loss of 11pts
Running Total +121.07pts

The Gold Service

Chester 2.00 Rizal Park 3pts WIN @ 5/1(only 4/1 available) 2nd 5/1
A loss of 3pts but a little unlucky as was only beaten 1/2L and didnt get a clear run.
Running Total +33.97pts

The Pro Punt Service

Hay 3.50 Sole Power 4pts WIN @ 7/4(only 13/8 available) Unpl 11/10
A loss of 4pts to end the trial
Running Total -3.25pts

The Lay Service

No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 24th May

The Form Guru Service

Good 2.35 Brave Echo 1pt EW @ 10/1 3rd 7/1
Yarm 5.05 Torero 1pt EW @ 14/1(only 12/1 available) Unpl 7/1
Muss 7.45 Nanton 2pts WIN @ 6/1 3rd 11/2
Muss 9.15 Edas 2pts WIN @ 6/1(only 11/2 available) Unpl 8/1
A loss of 4.5pts today
Running Total +132.07pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +36.97pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.75pts

The Lay Service

No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Thursday 23rd May

The Form Guru Service

Hay 4.05 Tellovoi 1pt EW @ 33/1(only 28/1 available) Unpl 20/1
Good 4.20 Silver Samba 3pts WIN @ 7/2(only 100/30 available)Unpl 2/1
Good 4.20 Man Of Plenty 1pt WIN @ 16/1(only 14/1 available)Unpl 10/1
Sals 7.45 Spice Fair 2pts WIN @ 5/1 Unpl 9/2
A blank day today and a loss of 8pts.
Running Total +136.57pts

Today 3 of the advised prices were not available and this is something that happens often, and unfortunately doesnt seem to be getting better.
Its a real shame as they do find winners but if they are using prices that have already gone then this will of course inflate the profit figures.
Today it didnt make any difference but that wont always be the case.

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +36.97pts

The Pro Punt
No bet today
Running Total +0.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Wednesday 22nd May

The Form Guru Service

Ling 5.00 Emmuska 2pts WIN @ 7/1 WON 7/1
Kemp 8.30 Jay Bee Blue 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 10/1
Worc 8.50 Anton Dolin 2pts WIN @ 11/2(only 5/1 available) Unpl 17/2
Another nice winner today and a profit of 10pts
Running Total +144.57pts

The Gold Service

Ling 4.30 Elusive Gold 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 14/1
A loss of 2pts today
Running Total +36.97pts

The Pro Punt Service

Kemp 7.00 Thewandaofu 4pts WIN @ 13/8 WON 11/4
Another example of why its important to get your bets on with the BOG bookies.
A nice 11/4 winner and a profit of 11pts
Running Total +0.75pts

The Lay Service

No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Tuesday 21st May

The Form Guru Service

Newc 3.30 Remember Rocky 1pt EW @ 25/1 3rd 8/1 dead heat
Nott 5.50 Monsieur Jamie 2pts WIN @ 17/2 WON 8/1
Towc 7.35 Dashing Doc 1pt EW @ 11/1 Unpl 10/1
Ponte 8.20 Nullarbor Sky 2pts WIN @ 5/1 (only 9/2 available) Unpl 9/2
Another nice winner today and a profit of 15.12pts
Running Total +134.57pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +38.97pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -10.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Next bets are on Tuesday

Saturday 18th May

The Form Guru Service

Newm 1.45 Red Seventy 1pt EW @ 14/1 WON 14/1
Newm 2.20 Red Orator 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 16/1
Newb 2.40 Poole Harbour 2pts WIN @ 8/1 2nd 9/2 (Btn Nse)
Newb 2.40 Signor Sassi 1pt WIN @ 12/1 Unpl 12/1
Thirsk 3.25 Head Space 1pt EW @ 11/1 Unpl 8/1
Donc 8.35 Dark Castle 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 14/1
Donc 8.35 Half a Billion 0.5pts EW @ 22/1 WON 16/1(R4 10p in £)
Two more cracking winners today and a profit of 20.875pts
Running Total +119.45pts

The Gold Service

Newm 2.55 Secretinthepark 2pts WIN @ 9/2 Unpl 3/1
A loss of 2pts today
Running Total +38.97pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -10.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 17th May

The Form Guru Service

York 2.15 Rios Rosanna 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 12/1
York 4.25 Prophesy 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 9/1
Newb 4.50 Cashpoint 1pt EW @ 14/1 2nd 11/1 (btn Hd)
Aintree 7.00 Native Gallery 2pts WIN @ 15/2 Unpl 7/1
Aintree 8.15 Connectivity 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 7/1
Ham 9.05 Lupi Pooter 2pts WIN @ 15/2 Unpl 4/1
A losing day with a loss of 7.5pts
Running Total +98.57pts

The Gold Servive

Newb 3.40 Zanetto 1pt EW @ 7/1 WON 100/30
Another nice winner and a profit of 8.4pts
Running Total +40.97pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -10.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Thursday 16th May

The Form Guru Service
York 3.15 Two For Two 3pts WIN @ 7/2 4th 7/2
York 5.00 Come Here Yew 1pt EW @ 16/1 3rd 16/1
Newm 7.00 Kiwayu 2pts WIN @ 15/2 Unpl 7/1
Newm 8.35 Lupo D’Oro 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 6/1
A loss of 4pts today
Running Total +106.07pts

The Gold Service

York 4.25 Parbold 4pts WIN @ 9/4 WON 100/30
This showed the importance of betting with the BOG bookies as the price drifted.
A profit of 13.33pts
Running Total +32.57pts

The Pro Punt Service

Newm 7.35 Speed Boogie 2pts WIN @ 7/2 Last 9/4
Another poor effort and a loss of 2pts
Running Total -10.75pts

The Lay Service

No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Wednesday 15th May

The Form Guru Service
York 1.45 Clayton 2pts WIN @ 6/1 Unpl 6/1
York 2.15 Compton 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 14/1
York 3.50 Cousin Khee 1pt EW @ 20/1 WON 14/1
York 5.00 Lancelot Du Lac 1pt EW @ 14/1 (only 12/1 available) WON 8/1
Perth 9.00 Fozy Moss 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 8/1
A very profitable day with two cracking winners.
Todays profit 34pts
Running Total +110.07pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +19.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -8.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes


Tuesday 14th May

The Form Guru Service
Winc 3.20 Thomas Wild 2pts WIN @ 4/1 3rd 7/2
South 7.30 Goodtoknow 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 7/1
Chep 7.40 Tawseef 1pt EW @ 10/1 WON 5/1 (R4 30p in the £)
A nice winner today but a 30p rule 4.
Todays profit is 4.4pts
Running Total +76.07pts

The Gold Service
No bets today
Running Total +19.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bets today
Running Total -8.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

The next bets will be on Tuesday

Sunday 12th May

The Form Guru Service
Worc 3.10 Gallox Bridge 2pts WIN @ 5/1 Unpl 9/2
Plump 4.00 Ironically 1pt WIN @ 10/1 (Unpl 10/1
Kemp 4.50 Representingceltic 3pts WIN @ 3/1 (only 11/4 available)2nd 2/1
Worc 5.40 Ahead Ahead 2pts WIN @ 9/2 Unpl 9/2
A blank day and a loss of 8pts
Running Total +71.67pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +19.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -8.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Saturday 11th May

The Form Guru Service
Hay 1.50 First Fandango 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 16/1
Ascot 2.05 Angel Gabrial 2pts WIN @ 11/2 WON 13/2
Hay 3.30 Silk Hall 1pt EW @ 18/1 Unpl 14/1
Ascot 3.50 Born To Surprise 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 16/1
Ascot 3.50 Glen Moss 1pt EW @ 18/1 Unpl 16/1
Ascot 3.50 Redvers 0.5pts EW @ 28/1 4th 25/1
A profit of 8pts today and it showed the importance of betting with the BOG bookies as the winner went from 11/2 to 13/2 and gained us an extra 2pts.
Running Total +79.67pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +19.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
Thirsk 8.15 Mujarrad 3pts WIN @ 3/1 Unpl 2/1
Another poor effort for this service and it is struggling at the moment.
Running Total -8.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 10th May

The Form Guru Service
Chester 3.50 Clockmaker 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 8/1
Ascot 6.00 Silver Samba 1pt EW @ 10/1 3rd 6/1
Ripon 6.55 Chooseaday 2pts WIN @ 15/2 Unpl 13/2
Ham 7.50 Le Chat D’Or 2pts WIN @ 11/2 Unpl 5/2
A loss of 5.5pts today
Running Total +71.67pts

The Gold Service
Ascot 7.05 Intransigent 2pts WIN @ 13/2(only 6/1 available) Unpl 10/1
A loss of 2pts
Running Total +19.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -5.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes


Thursday 9th May

The Form Guru Service
Chester 1.45 Flying Power 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 14/1
Good 2.30 Bancnuanaheirann 2pts WIN @ 13/2 WON 9/2(R4 15p in £)
New Abb 3.05 Tzora 1pt EW @ 10/1 WON 8/1
A good day with 2 nice winners and a profit of 21.05pts after the R4 deduction.
Running Total +77.17pts

The Gold Service
Chester 2.45 Havana Beat 2pts WIN @ 7/2 3rd 11/4
A loss of 2pts today
Running Total +21.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -5.75pts

The Lay Service
Good 1.55 Enobled £50 @ 2.6 WON 6/4
Chester 2.45 Ruler Of The World £100 @ 1.93 WON 10/11
Another poor day and a loss of £173 to advised stakes and a loss of 2.53pts to a level 1pt stake.
Running Total -£433.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -10.49pts to 1pt level stakes

Wednesday 8th May

The Form Guru Service
Chester 2.45 Buckland 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 14/1
Chester 2.45 Suraj 1pt EW @ 33/1 Unpl 20/1
Kelso 3.35 William Money 2pts WIN @ 17/2 Unpl 6/1
Newc 6.00 Rawaafed 2pts WIN @ 11/2 2nd 5/1
Newc 6.30 Hakuna Matata 1pt EW @ 9/1 Unpl 11/1
A blank day and a loss of 10pts
Running Total +56.12pts

The Gold Service
Chester 2.45 Justification 2pts WIN @ 5/1 Unpl 7/2
Chester 5.10 King Munro 1pt WIN @ 7/1 Unpl 9/1
A loss today of 3pts
Running Total +23.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
Chester 2.45 Olympiad 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 9/1
A loss of 2pts
Running Total -5.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£260.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -7.96pts to 1pt level stakes

Tuesday 7th May

The Form Guru Service
Catt 8.40 Imperial Legend 1pt EW @ 9/1 Unpl 11/2
A loss of 2pts today
Running Total +66.12pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +26.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -3.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£260.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -7.96pts to 1pt level stakes

Sunday 5th May
There are no bets now until Tuesday

Saturday 4th May

The Form Guru Service

Uttox 3.40 Trip The Light 1pt EW @ 22/1 Unpl 16/1
Uttox 4.50 Presenting Paddy 1pt EW @ 20/1 Unpl 20/1
Thirsk 5.45 Pea Shooter 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 9/1
Donc 6.45 New Leyf 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 9/1
A blank day and a loss of 8pts
Running Total +68.12pts

The Gold Srvice
No bet today
Running Total +26.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total -3.75pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£260.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -7.96pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 3rd May

The Form Guru Service

Chep 2.50 Berwin 1pt WIN @ 15/2 3rd 9/2
Muss 3.00 Next Edition 1pt WIN @ 9/1 WON 10/1
Chep 4.20 Saint Jerome 1pt EW @ 20/1 Unpl 16/1
Muss 4.30 Brassingham Eric 2pts WIN @ 9/2 2nd 4/1
Muss 5.35 Just The Tonic 1pt EW @ 9/1 2nd 4/1
Font 7.00 Saphire Rouge 1pt EW @ 16/1 WON 14/1
A very good day with 2 cracking winners and 2 seconds with one of those only beaten a head.
A profit today of 30.64pts
Running Total +76.12pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +26.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
Font 5.30 City Press 4pts WIN @ 11/10 Fell 4/5
Was going well but fell 3 out.
A loss of 4pts today.
Running Total -3.75pts

The Lay Service
Font 5.00 Phantom Prince £100 @ 2.18 2nd 5/4
Running Total -£260.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -7.96pts to 1pt level stakes

Thursday 2nd May

The Form Guru Service

Redc 5.35 Sorcellerie 2pts WIN @ 6/1 Unpl 7/1
Chep 5.40 Lady Bayside 3pts WIN @ 9/2 3rd 3/1
Taunt 6.50 Knight In Purple 2pts WIN @ 6/1 4th 5/1
Chep 7.40 Peak Storm 1pt EW @ 16/1 4th 6/1
Just Peak Storm placing for us today being backed down from 16/1 to 6/1.
A loss today of 4pts
Running Total +45.48pts

The Gold Service

Taunt 6.20 Coole River 2pts WIN @ 9/2 2nd 100/30
Ran well enough but wasnt good enough to catch the winner.
A loss of 2pts
Running Total +26.24pts

The Pro Punt Service

No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service

No bet today
Running Total -£355.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -8.91pts to 1pt level stakes


Wednesday 1st May

The Form Guru Service

Ponte 3.20 Dialogue 2pts WIN @ 13/2 Unpl 4/1
Ascot 3.35 Caucus 2pts WIN @ 7/1 2nd 6/1
Ascot 4.45 Frog Hollow 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 16/1
A blank day today and a loss of 6pts
Running Total +49.48pts

The Gold Service

Ascot 4.10 Zanetto 2pts WIN @ 11/2 4th 5/1
A loss of 2pts today
Running Total +28.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£355.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -8.91pts to 1pt level stakes

Tuesday 30th April
There were no bets on any of the services on Monday but we had some bets on Tuesday.

The Form Guru Service
Yarm 5.10 Chankillo 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 10/1
Worc 5.15 Cruise In Style 2pts WIN @ 13/2(only 6/1 available) 2nd 9/2
Worc 7.45 Tuscan Gold 1pt EW @ 16/1 WON 10/1
Worc 7.45 Original Star 0.5pts EW @ 25/1 Unpl 25/1
Another nice winner today but there was a 10p in the £ deduction.
So todays profit was 12.28pts
Running Total +55.48pts

The Gold Service
Yarm 2.40 Different 3pts WIN @ 2/1 WON 9/4
Another nice winner for this service and a profit of 6.75pts
Running Total +30.24pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£355.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -8.91pts to 1pt level stakes

Sunday 28th April

The Form Guru Service

Hunt 2.50 Bally Lagan 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 20/1
Weth 3.35 Savant Bleu 2pts WIN @ 7/1 WON 9/2
Lud 4.20 Gambo 2pts WIN @ 7/1 3rd 7/1
Hunt 5.05 No Loose Change 2pts WIN @ 13/2 Unpl 9/2
A nice 7/1 winner today and a profit of 8pts
Running Toatal +43.2pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +23.49pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£355.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -8.91pts to 1pt level stakes


Saturday 27th April


The Form Guru Service

Sand 2.05 Barbatos 1pt EW @ 12/1 Fell 10/1
Ripon 2.20 Ginger Jack 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 8/1
Ripon 2.55 Manyriverstocross 2pts WIN @ 9/2 Unpl 4/1
Sand 3.50 Becauseicouldntsee 1pt EW @ 25/1 Unpl 16/1
A blank day today and a loss of 8pts
Running Total +35.2pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +23.49pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£355.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -8.91pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 26th April

The Form Guru Service
Sand 1.40 Smoothtalkinrascal 2pts WIN @ 6/1 2nd 9/2
Perth 3.25 Settledoutofcourt 2pts WIN @ 7/1 2nd 3/1
Perth 4.35 Papamoa 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 9/2
Sand 5.00 Tagula Night 1pt EW @ 14/1 WON 14/1
Chep 5.20 Troubletimestwo 1pt EW @ 20/1 Unpl 14/1
A nice 14/1 winner today and a profit of 9.5pts
Running Total +43.2pts

The Gold Service
Chep 5.55 Dolatulo 3pts WIN @ 100/30 WON 9/4
A very easy 16L winner and a profit of 9.99pts
Running Total +23.49pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
Perth 4.00 Chartreaux £75 @ 2.52 2nd 11/10
A profit of £71.25 at advised stakes and 0.95pts to level stakes
Running Total -£355.50 to rec stakes
Running Total -8.91pts to 1pt level stakes

Thursday 25th April

The Form Guru Service
Perth 2.45 Tweedo Paridiso 1pt WIN @ 9/1 (Only 17/2 available) Unpl 8/1
Perth 3.15 Carrigdhoun 1pt EW @ 11/1 Unpl 9/1
Perth 3.45 Look For Love 2pts WIN @ 8/1 2nd 8/1
Newc 6.20 Oneladyowner 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 11/1
Newc 6.50 Gladsome 0.5pts EW @ 25/1 Unpl 20/1
Newc 7.20 Dorry K 0.5pts EW @ 28/1 Unpl 33/1
A loss today of 9pts
Running Total +33.7pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +13.15pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
The bet was Solwhit but it was withdrawn
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
Bev 2.05 La Sylphe £50 @ 4.1 WON 3/1
Punches 4.50 Bostons Angel £50 place lay @ 2.36 3rd 9/2
A pretty dismal day with both lays not going the way we wanted.
A loss of £223 to advised stakes & a loss of 4.46pts to level stakes.
Running Total -£426.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -9.86pts to 1pt level stakes
It has to be said even now that this service is performing very poorly and is looking like one to avoid.

Wednesday 24th April

I have spoken to Rob regarding the problems with some of the prices advised in the emails, and he has promised me that he will give me a detailed reply when he gets the time.
I have not had a reply just yet, but do expect one soon and when I do I will let you know what Rob has to say.

The Form Guru Service
Sedge 4.40 Its Oscar 2pts WIN @ 9/2 (only 4/1 available) 3rd 9/2
Taunt 4.50 Midnight Whisper 2pts WIN @ 9/2 WON 5/1
Epsom 5.00 Swift Cedar 2pts WIN @ 7/1 Unpl 6/1
Sedge 7.25 Leac An Scail 1pt EW @ 12/1 Fell 12/1
A profit today of 4pts
Running Total +42.7pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +13.15pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£203.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -5.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Tuesday 23rd April

The Form Guru Service

Ffos Las 3.45 Crannaghmore Boy 2pts WIN @ 7/1(only 6/1 available) Unpl 4/1
Towc 4.50 Roseini 2pts WIN @ 7/1 Unpl 12/1
Punch 4.55 Tristram Shandy 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 10/1
Punch 4.55 Shamiran 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 8/1
Wolves 5.05 Ant Cat Dubh 2pts WIN @ 6/1 3rd 3/1
Another blank day and a loss of 10pts
Running Total +38.7pts

A couple of problems with the quoted prices today and although it didnt make a difference today it does need to be pointed out.
The 7/1 for Crannaghmore Boy had long gone by the time the email arrived and the 14/1 quoted for Tristram Shandy was for first 5 places with Paddy Power that price with Paddy was cut at 10.40 to 11/1, the email was sent at 12.05, so was never available with them,
14/1 was there with other bookies but 1st 4 places.
As far as I am concerned these quoted prices should be there when the email arrives and there is no excuse for quoting a price that had gone over an hour before the email was sent.

The Gold Service
Wolves 2.20 Florida Beat 2pts WIN @ 7/2 Unpl 100/30
The 7/2 was available with just 888 sports bookie not one that I like and the best price with others was 3/1.
A 2pt loss today
Running Total +13.15pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£203.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -5.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Here are the results for Friday & Saturday there are no emails now until Tuesday, so I will be back Tuesday evening.

Saturday 20th April

The Form Guru
Newb 2.20 Educate 2pt WIN @ 11/2 Unpl 4/1
Newb 2.20 Dream Tune 0.5pt EW @ 22/1 Unpl 16/1
Thirsk 3.25 Ardmay 1pt EW @ 18/1 Unpl 8/1
Ayr 3.50 Monsieur Cadou 1pt WIN @ 14/1 Unpl 11/1
Ayr 3.50 Bradley 1pt WIN @ 16/1 Unpl 11/1
Ayr Lively Baron 0.5pt WIN @ 25/1 Unpl 16/1
Ayr 3.50 Problema Tic 0.5pt WIN @ 33/1(28/1 available) Unpl 20/1
Bang 4.15 Velvet Vic 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 17/2
A completely blank day and a loss of 10pts
Running Total +48.7pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +15.15pts

The Pro Punt Service

No bet today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£203.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -5.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 19th April

The Form Guru Service
Font 2.50 Saroque 2pts WIN @ 7/1 Unpl 9/2
Font 2.50 Kambis 1pt EW @ 16/1 (14/1 available) WON 12/1
Font 3.25 Emma Soda 1pt EW @ 8/1 (7/1 available) Unpl 8/1
Newb 4.15 Petaluma 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 10/1
A profit of 10.8pts for the day.

As I have said I am checking the availabilty of all of the bets advised, and today the winner which was advised at 16/1 was only available at 14/1 when I received the email.
I will record the profit/loss figures to the prices that I can get and not what is advised.
This is something that I have mentioned to Rob who sends the emails out and I am awaiting a reply.

Running Total +58.7pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +15.15pts

The Pro Punt Service
Bath 6.30 Swan Song 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 6/1
A loss of 2pts today
Running Total +0.25pts

The Lay Service
Font 2.20 Theatrical Star £50 @ 2.5 WON 11/10
A loss of £75 to advised stake and 1pt to level stakes
Running Total -£203.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -5.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Thursday 18th April

The Form Guru Service
Chelt 2.35 Ixora 2pts WIN @13/2 Unpl 6/1
Newm 2.55 Enaitch 0.5pts EW @ 40/1 Unpl 25/1
Chelt 3.10 Prima Porta 2pts WIN @ 7/1(Only 13/2 available) Unpl 13/2
Chelt 4.20 Big Easy 2pts WIN @ 13/2 WON 5/1
An 8pt profit for today
Running Total +47.9pts

The Gold Service
Newm 2.55 Havana Beat 1pt EW @ 8/1 Unpl 9/1
Finished 4th only beaten 1.5L by the winner
A loss of 2pts today
Running Total +15.15pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +2.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£128.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -4.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Wednesday 17th April

The Form Guru Service
Chelt 2.45 Dammam 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 12/1 (btn Nk for 3rd)
Chelt 3.20 Drum Valley 1pt EW @ 11/1 Unpl 10/1
Newm 3.30 Well Aquanted 1pt WIN @ 9/1 Unpl 8/1
Chelt 4.30 Italian Master 2pts WIN @ 11/2 4th 9/2
Newm 5.45 Regal Dan 1pt EW @ 16/1 2nd 12/1
All of the prices quoted were freely available.
A loss of 4pts today
Running Total +39.9pts

The Gold Service
Newm 2.55 Zanetto 1pt EW @ 9/1 WON 7/1
A very nice winner and a profit of 10.8pts for today
Running Total +17.15pts

The Pro Punt Service

No bet today
Running Total +2.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£128.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -4.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Tuesday 16th April

There were no bets for any of the services on Sunday or Monday

The Form Guru Service
Exeter 2.30 Fourofakind 2pts WIN @ 4/1 2nd 3/1
Kemp 3.25 Coolbeg 2pts WIN @ 11/2 Unpl 5/1
Kemp 4.00 Ballinahow Star 2pts WIN @ 6/1 Unpl 6/1
Kemp 4.35 Kilmurvy 1pt EW @ 10/1 3rd 7/1
Kemp 4.35 Brilliant Barca 0.5pts EW @ 25/1 Unpl 20/1
A loss today of 5.5pts
Running Total +43.9pts

I did notice that the price on one of the horses wasnt available, so this is something that I intend to keep a closer eye on as its vital that we get the prices that are quoted in the email.
If this continues to be a problem then I will contact Rob who runs the service to see if we can get him to make sure that the quoted odds are freely available.

The Gold Service
Exeter 4.10 Coole River @ 1/2 & Exeter 5.20 Deputy Dan @ 2/1 a 2pt WIN Double
Coole River was 2nd 2/5 and Deputy Dan WON 11/4
We were let down by the odds on shot who was well beaten and the odds for the double would have been just over 9/2.
A loss today of 2pts
Running Total +6.35pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +2.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet Today
Running Total -£128.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -4.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Saturday 13th April

The Form Guru Service
Strat 3.05 See U Bob 2pts WIN @ 4/1 WON 11/4
Donc 3.30 Shropshire 1pt EW @ 20/1 2nd 12/1
Uttox 3.55 Rich Buddy 2pts WIN @ 13/2 WON 5/1
Donc 4.05 Tres Coronas 1pt EW @ 12/1 2nd 10/1
Strat 4.15 De Faoithesdream 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 8/1

A very good day with only the last bet not being placed and a profit of 25pts on the day.
Running Total +49.4pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +8.35pts

The Pro Punt Service

No bet today
Running Total +2.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£128.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -4.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 12th April

The Form Guru Service
Chep 3.15 Furrows 2pts WIN @ 4/1 2nd 11/4
Weth 4.00 Lord Luso 2pts WIN @ 7/1 2nd 7/1
Weth 4.00 See You Jack 1pt EW @ 22/1 4th 14/1
Chep 5.30 Autumn Haze 1pt EW @ 20/1 Unpl 22/1
A couple of near misses with two seconds today but our 4th at 22/1 meant we kept the loss down to 1.5pts
Running Total +24.4pts

The Gold Service

No bets today
Running Total +8.35pts

The Pro Punt Service

No bet today
Running Total +2.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total -£128.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -4.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Thursday 11th April

The Form Guru Service
Winc 2.30 Madam Noso 1pt EW @ 33/1 Unpl 25/1
Lud 3.40 Michael Flips 2pts WIN @ 9/2 WON 4/1
Lud 4.10 Terre De Vent 2pts WIN @ 11/2 Unpl 3/1
A profit of 5pts for today
Running Total +25.9pts

The Gold Service
Font 2.20 Up To Something 4pts WIN @ 10/11 WON 4/6
A nice easy 18L winner and a profit of 3.6pts for today
Running Total +8.35pts

The Pro Bet Service
No bet today
Running Total +2.25pts

The Lay Service
Running Total -£128.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -4.4pts to 1pt level stakes

Wednesday 10th April

The Form Guru Service
Nott 4.10 Weapon Of Choice 1pt EW @ 12/1 2nd 8/1
Catt 4.50 The Fun Crusher 2pts WIN @ 9/2 Unpl 11/4
A break even day today
Running Total +20.9pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +4.75pts

The Pro Punt Service
Ling 4.00 Melvin The Grate 4pts WIN @ 9/4 3rd 7/4
A loss of 4pts today
Running Total +2.25pts

The Lay Service
Kemp 6.30 King Muro £25 @ 5.6 WON 7/2
A bad result for this service and a loss of £115 to the advised stake.
Running Total -£128.75 to rec stakes
Running Total -4.4pts to 1pt level stakes
This service is already worrying me as in todays email we were told that the the lay selections havent been as good as expected recently, and they have had problems getting lay selections from their lay man, so the form guru guy is now going to take over.
Not a good start for him.

Tuesday 9th April

The Form Guru Service
Ponte 2.10 Merchant Of Medici 1pt EW @ 25/1 Unpl 20/1
Ponte 3.40 Ctappers 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 14/1
Carlisle 3.50 Ronnie Rhino 1pt EW @ 11/1 Unpl 5/1
Ponte 5.15 Rayadour 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 14/1
A blank day today and a loss of 8pts
Running Total +20.9pts

The Gold Service
Carlisle 2.20 Dolatulso 4pts WIN @ Evs WON 4/7
A very well backed 8L winner
Profit today 4pts
Running Total +4.75pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +6.25pts

The Lay Service
Carlisle 5.25 Master Rajeem £50 @ 2.7 WON 6/4
A loss of £85 at the advised price.
Running Total -£13.75 to rec stakes
Running Total +0.2pts to 1pt level stakes

Sunday 7th April

I know I said there was no bets until Tuesday but their form man didnt get the message and did a write up for today anyway, and found a very nice winner.

Ascot 4.00 Conquiesto 2pts WIN @ 5/1 3rd 5/1
Ascot 4.00 Fairy Rath 1pt EW @ 22/1 WON 11/1
Ascot 4.40 Tullamore Dew 2pts WIN @ 13/2 Unpl 6/1
A very nice winner and a profit of 22.4pts on the day
Running Total +28.9pts

There were no bets for the other 3 services and I will be back on Tuesday evening

Saturday 6th April

There are no bets now until Tuesday so my next update will be Tuesday evening.

Again another very busy day

The Form Guru Service
Aintree 1.45 Eduard 2pt WIN @ 4/1 Unpl 4/1
Aintree 2.50 Grand Crus 1pt WIN @ 7/1 Unpl 8/1
Aintree 3.25 Opening Batsman 2pts WIN @ 15/2 Unpl 13/2
Aintree 3.25 Duke Of Lucca 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 12/1
Aintree 4.15 Rare Bob 1pt EW @ 20/1 5th 16/1(1st 6)
Aintree 4.15 Across The Bay 1pt EW @ 33/1 Unpl 40/1
Aintree 4.15 Teaforthree 1pt WIN @ 12/1 3rd 10/1
Aintree 4.15 Balthazar King 1pt WIN @ 20/1 Unpl 16/1
Aintree 4.15 Join Together 1pt WIN @ 25/1 Unpl 25/1
Aintree 5.10 Zarzal 1pt EW @ 20/1 3rd 25/1
Aintree 5.10 Canadian Diamond 1pt EW @ 22/1 Unpl 25/1
With two getting placed at big prices we had a small loss of 2.75pts for the day.
Running Total +6.5pts

The Gold Service
Aintree 4.15 Rare Bob 1pt EW @ 22/1 5th 16/1
A profit of 4.5pts
Running Total +0.75pts

The Pro Punt Service

Aintree 4.15 Chicago Grey 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 11/1
A loss of 2pts
Running Total +6.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total +£71.25 to rec stakes
Running Total +1.9pts to 1pt level stakes

Friday 5th April

The Form Guru Service

Aintree 2.30 Super Duty 2pts WIN @ 5/1 Unpl 4/1
Aintree 2.30 Sea Of Thunder 1pt WIN @ 8/1 Unpl 8/1
Aintree 3.40 Gullible Gordon 1pt WIN @ 12/1 Unpl 11/1
Aintree 3.40 Theres No Panic 1pt WIN @ 16/1 Unpl 9/1
Aintree 3.40 Fistral Beach 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 20/1
Aintree 4.15 Just A Par 1pt EW @ 9/1 2nd 8/1
Aintree 4.50 Manyriverstocross 1pt WIN @ 11/1 4th 10/1
Aintree 4.50 Salubriuos 1pt WIN @ 11/1 5th 10/1
Aintree 4.50 Peckhamecho 0.5pt EW @ 28/1 6th 25/1 (1st 5 EW)
So a loss today of 8.75pts
Running Total +9.25pts

The Gold Bet Service

Aintree 2.30 Super Duty 2pts WIN @ 5/1 Unpl 4/1
Aintree 4.50 Hazy Tom 0.5pt EW @ 33/1 Unpl 33/1
A loss of 3pts today
Running Total -3.75pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +8.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total +£71.25 to rec stakes
Running Total +1.9pts to 1pt level stakes

Thursday 4th April

The Form Guru Service
Aintree 2.00 L’Unique 1pt EW @ 12/1 WON 10/1
Aintree 2.30 Quito De La Roque 1pt EW @ 10/1 Unpl 7/1
Aintree 3.05 Grandouet 2pts WIN @ 9/2 Unpl 4/1
Aintree 3.05 Thousand Stars 1pt WIN @ 11/1 3rd 10/1
Aintree 3.40 Cool Friend 0.5pt EW @ 40/1 2nd 33/1 BTN NK
Aintree 4.15 Silver Roque 1pt WIN @ 11/1 Unpl 8/1
Aintree 4.15 Pires 1pt WIN @ 8/1 Unpl 8/1
Aintree 4.15 Donnas Palm 0.5pt EW @ 25/1 Unpl 25/1
Aintree 5.25 Barafundle 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 11/1
A very busy day for this service and a nice profit of 9.5pts which would have been much better if Cool Friend hadnt been caught on the line at 40/1.
Running Total +18pts

The Gold Service
Aintree 3.05 Grandouet 2pts WIN @ 9/2 Unpl 4/1
Aintree 5.25 Many Clouds 1pt EW @ 12/1 Unpl 10/1
Running Total -0.75pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +8.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total +£71.25 to rec stakes
Running Total +1.9pts to 1pt level stakes

Wednesday 3rd April

The Form Guru Service
Weth 4.10 Hollins 2pts Win @ 11/2 Unpl 7/1
Kemp 7.30 Twenty One Choice 2pts Win @ 11/2 Won 5/1
A nice winner today and a profit of 9pts
Running Profit +8.5pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +3.25pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +8.25pts

The Lay Service
No bet today
Running Total +£71.25 to rec stakes
Running Total +1.9pts to 1pt level stakes

Tuesday 2nd April

The Form Guru Service
No bets today
Running Total -0.5pts

The Gold Service
No bet today
Running Total +3.25pts

The Pro Punt Service
No bet today
Running Total +8.25pts

The Lay Service
Exeter 2.10 Samtheman Lay £50 @ 2.4 4th 4/5
Running Total +£71.25 to rec stakes
Running Total +1.9pts to 1pt level stakes

Monday 1st April

The Form Guru Service

Plump 3.05 Five Rivers 2pts Win @ 5/1 Won 7/2
Hunt 3.10 Big News 2pts Win @ 5/1 Unpl 9/2
Red 4.00 Bling King 1pt EW @ 11/1 Unpl 16/1
Plump 4.05 Laterly 2pts Win @ 9/2 Fell 7/2
Fairy 4.50 Goonyella 1pt EW @ 16/1 Unpl 12/1
Fairy 4.50 Blazing Beacon 0.5pt EW @ 40/1 Unpl 25/1

Plenty of bets but just the one winner for a profit of 1pt on the day
Running Total -0.5pts

The Gold Service

No bets today
Running Total +3.25pts

The Pro Punt Service

No bets today
Running Total +8.25pts

The Lay Service

No bets today
Running Total +£23.75 to rec stakes
Running Total +0.95pts to 1pt level stakes

Sunday 31st March

No bets today for any of the services

Saturday 30th March

The Form Guru Service

Donc 1.20 Spinatrix 1pt EW @ 14/1 2nd 12/1
Donc 1.55 Frog Hollow 1pts EW @ 14/1 Unpl 12/1
Hay 2.40 Softsong 1pt Win @ 17/2 Unpl 8/1
Donc 3.05 Jacks Revenge 1pt EW @ 20/1 Unpl 16/1
Carl 3.45 Humbie 2pts Win @ 4/1 Won 5/2
Hay 4.25 Big Society 1pt Win @ 8/1 Unpl 9/2

A busy day but a profit of 4.5pts for the day
Running total -1.5pts

The Gold Service

Hay 3.15 Pepite Rose 2pts Win @ 4/1 2nd 5/1
Muss 5.15 Move In Time 3pts Win @ 11/4 Won 9/4

A good day with a very easy 5L winner and the other only beaten a Shd
for a profit of 6.25pts on the day.
Running total +3.25pts

The Pro Punt Service

No bet today
Running total +8.25pts

The Lay Service

No bet today
Running Total +£23.75 to rec stakes
Running Total +0.95pts to 1pt level stakes

Thurs 28th March

The Form Guru

Ffos Las 2.20 Stony Road 2pts Win @ 5/1 Unpl 13/2
Ludlow 4.40 Pearls Legend 2pts Win @ 7/2 Unpl 4/1
Ludlow 5.15 Goodtoknow 1pt EW @ 9/1 Unpl 8/1
Wolves 5.25 Yorksters Prince 1pt EW @ 9/1 Unpl 7/1
A loss of 8pts for the day.
Running Total is now -6pts

The Gold Service

No bet today
Running Total -3pts

The Pro Punt Servive

No bet today
Running Total +8.25pts

The Lay Service

We had our first lay bet today
Ludlow 4.10 Ballywatt lay £25 @ 5.2 2nd 7/2
Running Total +£23.75 to rec stakes
Running Total +0.95pts to 1pt level stakes

There is no racing on Friday so our next lot of results is on Saturday

Weds 27th March

The Form Guru

Weth 2.50 Blazing Bull 2pts Win @ 6/1 Won 7/2
Weth 4.30 Whats Up Woody 2pts Win @ 5/1 Unpl 5/1
Weth 4.30 Et Maintenant 1pt EW @ 14/1 Unpl 11/1
Wolves 8.50 Spirit Of Gondree 2pts Win @ 11/2 Unpl 4/1
So a profit of 6pts for the day.
The running total is now +2pts

The Gold Service

Weth 3.20 Westward Point 3pts Win @ 2/1 2nd 7/4
Only beaten just over a length with the 3rd horse 26L away
Running Total -3pts

The Pro Punt Service

South 4.55 Apache Rising 3pts Win @ 11/4 Won 5/2
A good start with a very easy 6L winner
Running Total +8.25pts

The Lay Service

No bet today

Tues 26th March

The Form Guru
There were two bets today from the form man.

Southwell 5.00 Lakota Brave 2pts Win @ 7/2 Unpl 11/4
Lingfield 5.20 Roman Senate 1pt EW @ 11/1 Unpl 10/1
So a loss of 4pts for the day
The running total is -4pts

The Gold Service

No bet today

The Pro Punt Service

No bet today

The Lay Service

No bet today

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  1. Kevin Haselden says:

    I have received an email about this service from a current subscriber who wished to remain anonymous. Does anyone else share these views or have an alternative opinion:

    I have subscribed to Form Guru for over three years. It is profitable but not to the extent that they would have you believe.

    I notice that profits are being quoted to the early prices given. It is important to bear in mind that these prices are sometimes not available. A typical example is Rich Buddy today, quoted at 13/2 and the price was not available. This happens on a number of occasions and makes a significant difference to the quoted profits.

    Last Sunday the service claims a 22/1 winner. It was sent out but unfortunately the previous day the service had stated no more bets till Tuesday which means that I, along with number of others, did not place the bet. It resulted in the service sending out a huge apology.

    I also receive the Form Guru advertising on another email address and on more than one occasion the advert has claimed big priced winners that were not actually given.

    I have taken this up with the service but not received a reply, which is not surprising because their customer service is shocking and emails rarely get a reply.

    There is a lack of transparency on the website as well and past results are not available.

    The average profit over the time I have been with them is about 20 points per month. That is acceptable to me but way below the figures quoted.

    • Eddie says:

      As I have said above, I do intend to keep a closer eye on the odds that are available when the email arrives, as its vital that we get the odds that are quoted, as they will of course quote their profits using those odds.
      Regarding the 22/1 winner, it is correct that they did say that there would be no email, but they did send it out over 2 hours before the race was off, and as I had seen the email I decided to put it into the calculations.
      I can understand why they sent it out as they would be hoping that as many as possible of their subscribers would pick up the email, but in hindsight it would probably have been better not to.

  2. Eddie says:

    I have been speaking to Rob who runs The Inside Rail, regarding the prices that are quoted in the emails that are sent out to members, and availability of those prices.
    Here is Robs reply and as Rob says if there are any more questions for him please ask.

    Eddie

    Apologies, I thought I had already replied but just realised the reply was still in my drafts folder.

    All of today’s prices absolutely were available at the time of sending, as they always are. Granted the 13/2 was only available at the one firm but it was definitely there. I have been taking screen shots of all prices before I send them out and they are all checked seconds before they are sent. The screenshot is attached for the Cruise In Style price. I think we need to make the distinction between the prices when they are sent and the prices that may be available when certain people open the emails. Generally prices are always still available when they arrive but from time to time the odd one may have been clipped a point or two if some of our heftier investors manage to get on first.

    The whole ethos of the Form Guru service is based around value. We have one of the best form readers in the game on board, he has been with us for over 10 years and he has made substantial profits in every one of those ten years, with just a couple of losing months on average every year. We keep our prices very low so that as many people as possible can take advantage of the information, which invariably means that selections are well backed. We do have some “big hitters” on our books who bet very heavily, so if they manage to act on the information before other people get a chance then the prices will of course be cut. As I say the whole service is based around value, so of course we do need to send out selections at advised prices and not calculate profits and losses at SP, because that’s what finding value is all about. A selection wouldn’t be given out at the SP of 9/1 if we are advising it at 16/1. Sometimes people go to back our selections half an hour or an hour after the emails are sent out and then complain that the prices are no longer there, well that’s racing I’m afraid, prices get cut.

    We have found from discussions with subscribers that most people DO manage to get on at the best prices, and even if they do not the end result is a fraction of a point or two here and there, maybe 10-15% difference in advised results at the end of a particular month. Considering we make 70-80 points profit some months I’m sure most people could live with this, especially as almost every other service out there makes an overall loss.

    All we can do at the end of the day is advise the prices as they are when we are sending. Of course it is important to us that as many of our subscribers as possible get on at the best price, but we also feel we have the right to quote the best prices in our results as long as they were available at the time of sending. I shall continue to take screen shots of the prices at the time of sending.

    I hope this covers all of the questions, feel free to post the reply on your blog, and if anyone else has any questions at all please forward them and I will be happy to answer them.

    Regards
    Rob

    • dgw6969 says:

      Not suprised to hear Inside Rail has problems getting sign ups…they wont follow thru and cancel when requested and take further payments whilst denying that you have sent cancellation e mail. I had awful problems with them which was only resolved when my bank and their card charge company intervened. It was only after all this that I googled them to find I was not alone in this…. Avoid them like the plague is my advice…

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