Victory Tips Service Review

| August 8, 2016 | 15 Replies

Product Name:

Victory Tips

Author:

David Hall

Company Name & Contact Details

81 Mosley Street, St Peters Square, Manchester M2 3FX email: david@victorytips.co.uk (shown incorrectly on website)

Headline:

Let me show you how my Victory Tips have banked me £12,520 in profits……

Price:

£20 per month (plus VAT in EU)

Money Back Guarantee:

60 Day Unconditional (Clickbank)

What Do You Get   .

win tips horse racing email based

Where to buy:

www.victorytips.co.uk

Brief Summary

Victory Tips from David Hall offers win betting tips for horse racing. Claims min 43% strike achieved and results available from website but unverified. Standard marketing rags to riches story with images that have been used on other websites previously. The London based client is an actor and the guy from Kent appears on a male grooming website. Should offer 2 to 4 selections daily. Appears to have connections to ill fated Racing Eye service.  

How Much Money Do I need to get started?

100 point bank assumed

How much money can I make?

See headline

How much time will I need to make this work?.

Minutes daily

Will I need any equipment to do this?

Internet Connection

Our trial of this service has begun and we’ll post our results soon. In the meantime, if you have tried Victory Tips we would love to hear from you. Please leave your comments below.

Value for money?  

No

Quality of customer service?  

Non existent. No response to emails

Review  The latest in a line of horse racing enthusiasts who have developed their own bespoke software to achieve the fantastic selection success claimed. The profits claims are based on £10 stakes and a strike rate which “never drops below 43% month in month out”. Although the results are specified in summary form when you click through to the detail it is not possible to see the full window needed to assess them – and in any event they are not verified and so could easily be after the event claims.

There is no formal welcome when you sign up and the first communication was the next daily selection email which offers a list of horses and a price. No indication of type of bet to be used or the staking plan and our request for advice on these issues was ignored. We have therefore used a nominal 100 point bank and 1 point level stakes which with a £1,000 starting bank would mean the £10 stakes he claims to have used.

The odds quoted in the emails (which are not sent daily as may be seen from the results specification) can be a little off the mark by the time the emails are received but this is not greatly relevant as only 20 of 101 runners have won. Funny how the minute we go live the strike rate cannot match the performance seen previously isn’t it? A losing run of 18 races is hardly consistent with a 40% plus strike rate while the best winning sequence is only 3 bets. Prices have ranged from odds on to 20/1 with the average winning price a shade under 3/1 with  12/1 the best seen.

At BOG prices this has meant a loss of 7.3 points while at BSP we are talking 19.4 points down the tubes. No comment has been made by the service about the poor results and again no response to a request for thoughts on the situation.

The outcome is no real surprise with the obvious deficiencies in the marketing and indeed the false testimonials. It is a pity he has not actually complied with the initial statement on the marketing page “I’m not here to waste anybody’s time…” As far as I am concerned the whole service is a sham and certainly a waste of time – and potentially cash – for those unlucky enough to have subscribed.

You can see a breakdown of the results here:

Victory Tips Results

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Category: Betting, Horse Racing, Horse Racing Tipsters, Sport, Tipster Services

Comments (15)

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  1. Emailonly says:

    I have been following this for two days. First day there were four bets with one winning at 3.86 to Betfair SP. So a losing day. Day two there were four selections. One withdrew the other three lost. James Croft who has been endorsing this service claims that the first day was yet another winning day by only pointing out the winning bet whilst ignoring the losers. I wonder if I could come to the same arrangement with the bookies? I don’t mind posting results for the next few days to Betfair SP if anyone is interested.

  2. nonex says:

    Please, do. It’s always fun to see these scamsters fail. And no harm if I’m proven wrong.

  3. nonex says:

    @Admin

    Please, delete my previous post. It makes no sense if it is
    published too late with the sign “DELETED BY MOD” on it, only because I used an “ugly but correct” word.

  4. Emailonly says:

    Results for 9th August: 4 selections. None of them even placed.

  5. Emailonly says:

    Results for 10th August: 4 selections. One winner at 2.9 BFSP. So another losing day!

  6. peter51 says:

    I joined this service a few days ago. Out of 8 tips received so far 7 have lost! For all I know they could be picking horses out with a blindfold and pin! At the start of the service no mention was made of the recommended bank or staking plan. Their advertising claims average 47% strike rate. I seriously doubt anyone would get near that. Very poor service so far.

  7. TheBaker says:

    Wow, fantastically consistent! Approx. same number of bets/winners/percentage/profit every month.

    “Robert Thomas, London” – his photo is on 3 other (different) websites.
    “Andrew Gates, Kent” – he’s on another 4.

    Come on, get real. If you see a glossy website with outlandish profit claims unsupported by any evidence – keep your money in your pocket!

  8. tom42 says:

    @TheBaker

    Pity they don’t have a facility to post Smilies

    the ‘banging your head against a brick wall’ one springs to mind.

    🙂

  9. Emailonly says:

    Ok. Friday results: all four placed.
    Saturday: one lost, one placed and two won at 3.48 and 1.58. This in no way corresponds to his alleged results so I have already asked for my money back via Clickbank. End of results from me. Cheers.

  10. Emailonly says:

    Refund back in bank. No bets placed so no money lost. Thank god for Clickbank.

  11. Bear1 says:

    Some people may see the Clickbank guarantee and think, “I’ve got NOTHING to lose” and so why not?

    I would argue that the wasting of someone’s TIME does not amount to NOTHING and furthermore, if you don’t paper trade, you will lose more than time.

    And so how do we know that something is a waste of time unless we actually try it?

    Simple – check the website for the following tell-tale signs:

    Glossy, high quality graphics

    Sunny pictures of exotic beaches, big cars, big houses, yachts and so forth

    Falsified screen-shots of bookmakers/exchange/bank accounts showing big profits

    Testimonials, especially those with smiley pictures – use Google Chrome and right click on the image, then select “Search Google for Image” and then press enter. This will tell you where the false image has come from.

    Unverified results – check when the website was created – http://www.register.com/whois.rcmx

    Being told that you can tell your boss to ‘stuff his job’

    Rags to riches stories

    Clickbank guarantees

    Imaginary characters with made up CVs designed to impress. And so we may be fooled into thinking that the ex-jockey knows what he is talking about, or the daughter of an ex-trainer will have some useful contacts, or the maths graduate has worked out a fantastic staking plan to beat the bookies.

    So…….for this particularly product, we have ‘David Hall’ who is the only horse racing fanatic, in the country, who holds a PHD in computer sciences. If you seriously believe that, then I respectfully suggest that you stop betting immediately until you become a bit more savvy.

    Everything about this website has the alarm bells ringing. Alarm bells sound like this……

    DING-DONG!

    DING-DONG!

    DING-DONG!

    DING-DONG!

  12. Maynard says:

    No mate. Alarm bells sound like this:

    Ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling

    My doorbell sounds like DING-DONG!

  13. Bear1 says:

    LOL you are so right 🙂

    BTW – great commentary on the Mo Farah race.

  14. alandamper says:

    It’s amazing that these mailshots and promotions are not shut down as fraud. Sure, I can write a program that generates tips, or just stick a pin the the RP and supply them to my clients. Clickbank is fine since it allows a refund. The fraud is in using clearly false statements to elicit the response of sending money. Does nobody file any complaints against these people?

    At the bottom of the sales page it says…

    “Earning potential is entirely dependent on the person using our product, their ideas and techniques. This is a new service and as such there is no longterm history of earnings from its use. For privacy purposes, the author has chosen to use the pen name, David Hall © Victory Tips 2016 All Rights Reserved”

    None of that surely makes this legal? If a couple of builders turn up at an old lady’s house and say her chimney is about to collapse but they can fix it for ten grand yet they are lying, are they covered if they stick a ‘brochure’ through the letterbox which has in small writing on the back page “As a new building service we have no track record and cannot guarantee you really did have a problem with your chimney”.

  15. TheBaker says:

    @alandamper – you say:

    “It’s amazing that these mailshots and promotions are not shut down as fraud.”

    Unfortunately it’s a case of “by whom?”

    The so-called regulatory authority for misleading advertising is the toothless Advertising Standards Authority. Report something to them and it takes an age for them even to look at the complaint. And for them to actually do anything? Very little but warn, even if it gets that far. Streetwise Marketing, for example, have many reviews on this site that draw criticism from some purchasers of their products. It’s probably fair to say that they are not held in the highest esteem due to what are considered to be inflated claims about their products. Nevertheless, these continue despite a warning from the ASA in 2014 about – “”Discover How George Wins £50,000 A Year”.

    The ASA said – “The ad must not appear again in its current form. We told Streetwise Publications Ltd they should not make unsubstantiated claims about the success of gambling systems, and that they should not suggest gambling could be a solution to financial concerns, an alternative to employment or a way to achieve financial security.”

    So, just a slap on the wrist and Streetwise continue with claims that simply appear to be a copywriters fancy.

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