Product Name: Tyler Jordan Tipster
Author: Tyler Jordan
Company Name And Contact Details:
Congratulations – your life as a punter is over. Your life as a winner has just begun.
Price: From 14/07/2011 £50 for 2 months, then £100 for 2 months then £200.
Money Back Guarantee: None
What Do You Get?
– 6 days a week email tipping service for UK horse racing.
Where To Buy: http://www.tylerjordantipster.com/
Tyler Jordan Tipster service is a email based tipping service for UK Horse Racing. Tips are based on form study and some inside contacts in the industry. Tips are normally received between 12 and 1 daily with possible evening updates given too. There are no tips on Saturdays.
What’s It All About?
The author is a professional gambler who is happy to share his tips with 50 others when he has placed his bets. Tyler expects to make £200-300 daily from his personal betting which he places at £100 per point.
How Much Money Do I Need To Get Started?
100 point betting bank recommended
How Much Money Can I Make?
Stated aim is to double bank every 2 months. Profit of 51 points in 4 week trial to date.
How Much Time Will I Need To Make This Work?
5 – 10 minutes daily.
Will I Need Any Equipment To Do This?
PC and Internet connection or mobile email capability.
Value For Money?
If profits continue then YES.
Quality Of Customer Service?
Good – emails responded to in hours.
Interim Review 08/07/2011
I suspect that readers are among the few to get notice of this service which seems to be hiding its light under the proverbial bushel.
That is probably because the author is primarily interested in the quality of the tips from which he makes his living and the sleek presentation and other factors are secondary. Certainly that is no bad thing because the tips are what really matter.
The service works well technically with a few minor hiccoughs but nothing to be concerned about.
The tips are received in good time to make the bets and as mentioned on the thread there can be up to 3 emails a day.
So people who cannot access emails easily may not find this service appealing but I suggest that a mobile subscription to a suitable network may well be worth the outlay.
Tyler does not comment much on the tips when sent but does review the days results after the last race has run. He is clearly involved through the whole process and motivated by his desire to win personally which has to be good for his clients.
In the first 2 weeks of the trial we have seen 127 tips of which 31 have been successful.
A strike rate of 24.4% which with an average price of 7.71 gives every chance of profits.
My records show a 70 point profit using a 1 point progressive stake – the original £5 stake is now £8.59 and the service is well on its way to achieving its aim of doubling the bank inside 2 months.
Tyler suggests using a level stake of 1 point until the bank doubles then increasing – on this basis the profit is still a very acceptable 43 points.
Bets are placed both to win and each way and we even have some reverse forecasts included in the mix. The only “problem” I have encountered is that the advised odds are sometimes way off the achievable but this is a minor irritation while the results continue in this vein.
So the initial impression is very positive and a further update will follow later in July when I hope to report continued success.
Final Review 18/07/2011
I sometimes wonder what it is that a few of the readers actually want.
Here is a service that sets out precisely what it offers and has produced a profit for all but the very recent joiners and yet we get comments on the thread to the extent that the author does not wish to contribute further.
At the end of the day it is your choice to sign up for the service and if you do and then decide a week later it is not for you then I have to question your whole strategy. The reason that we test products for at least a month is to give them a fair crack of the whip and with this service I am delighted to say that Tyler has agreed to let us continue testing for a further 2 months so a more informed picture can be available to all.
So lets get back to the service itself. Over the period of the trial so far it has produced excellent results with the theoretical bank more than doubled.
Three of the 4 weeks have shown a profit and there have been 57 winning bets from 221 tips – a strike rate of 25.79% at average odds of 7.69.
The odds I have quoted are those available at the time the bets are received which is the only relevant measure. It is obvious from the service website and subsequent advices on the thread that the tips are sent with the intention of being placed immediately because the prices offered are good value. Again if the reader cannot operate on that basis do not subscribe and don’t criticise what clearly works for others.
Full details are given on the spreadsheet and I have experimented with some colour coding to try and highlight certain features – it would be appreciated if thoughts on the format could be offered.
I hope it is self explanatory but the keys are shown at the top of the page above the split so you can see easily the daily and weekly results trends.
You will see that a £5 point at the outset has become £10.22 at the end of the trial. If the service were to break even for the next month then the stated aim of doubling the bank every 2 months would still have been achieved.
I hope that readers will implore Tyler to continue his contributions to the thread – his willingness to do so and his ready responses to questions I have posed privately is refreshing and underlines the genuine nature of the service.
To put the results further in perspective, I am currently looking at Beaumnonts Bets where in less than 3 weeks I have received 884 tips (yes 884) of which just 134 have won and the bank is well down.
Tyler offers bets that he believes in and not just a tip for its own sake and has demonstrated his willingness to go the extra mile for subscribers.
As things go I remain positive about the service and suggest that readers keep an eye on things in case there are further opportunities to join in the future and they will be the best informed.
I know that results are the ultimate criterion on which judgement will be made and perhaps we could remember that Tyler has put £100 per point on all the tips he sends out so he needs them to perform as well as us.
Next update will be in August 2011 but for now you can see my latest results here:
This marks the 2 months anniversary of monitoring commencing but before commenting on the service specifics it might be helpful to outline what a reviewer does in general terms.
Clearly the review will vary with the type of service but underlying everything I see my role as testing a product service in the way in which it is presented and thus how it works in practice.
If there is a manual to use, then can that be translated into practical daily application of the system? Or if an email service do the tips arrive in timely fashion?
I try to view from a relatively inexperienced person’s angle to see how it would work for them and also to find out if the service is genuine or just run for the benefit of subscription collection. The actual results experienced are naturally a very important part of the review process.
The published review can only ever take account of the results seen during testing and there can never be any guarantee that these will continue for either a manual based system or a tipping service.
Any one who believes different should examine their own strategies carefully. Unless I have missed it, nobody has yet come across the silver bullet and it takes a carefully managed approach to pick out what will work for you. Factors that we cannot control come into this such as the time you have available or the betting bank you use.
I have re-visited my original review comments and stand by them. They were made in every good faith at the time and presented an accurate summary of the situation as it then was.
So how does the Tyler Jordan Service stand up to the elements as we look at it now?
a) Is the service genuine?
I believe it is. Tyler has taken heed of the comments about access and advised his business address for contact purposes. He therefore complies with the regulations that are necessary. His emails generally have shown that he plans to continue with the service and not run away. His inexperience as a businessman is hardly surprising given his age.
b) Emails received in good time?
Although some are tight they have always been received by me in time to place the bets recommended.
c) Are the quoted odds available for clients to place their bets?
Again they have generally been so and after the initial hiccoughs it is rare for a price to vary by more than 1 point from that advised. If you cannot be available to place your bets when the emails are received then you should not be subscribing to the service. It is clearly set out in the sales material that it works that way and cannot be a ground for dissatisfaction if ignored.
d) Is the service value for money?
With the results of the last month – clearly not. We have been advised that the price will be £50 per month for the future for new subscribers. It appears from the thread comments that the high potential price was a major factor in the opinion of the service quality. The reality is that it is a value judgement that each reader must make for himself. There is no compulsion to buy.
e) Recent results:
These have been poor since the full review and those joining at that time will be nursing a very depleted bank. Since I started monitoring the service it remains in profit but at a much reduced level.
Of the 9 weeks monitored there have been 4 winning weeks and 5 losing ones. The overall strike rate for winning bets is 23.06% which is about 3% down on position at the end of month 1.
Tyler has hardly hidden his displeasure at the poor situation and is trying to rectify it. He has offered free access to his lay service for subscribers and also has recently set out a redefinition of the guides that he will work to for making tips.
It is too early to tell if these will have the desired effect. Clearly it would not be a good time to subscribe now (unless you adhere to the start at the bottom theory). Full details are given in the spreadsheet where it will be seen the bank is standing at 130% of its starting point and the original £5 stake is now £5.90.
Just to clarify I do not increase stated winnings if the SP is greater than the price obtainable at the time the bet was placed so the results may be less than could have been achieved. I have also not included any Saturday bets as these were stated to be outside the service parameters at the outset.
At the end of the day it comes down to a question of competence and there is nothing illegal should you merely be incompetent. It is a pity that the service results have deteriorated so badly in the second period of review.
It will be a major task for Tyler to regain the confidence of followers and it will be interesting to see how he tackles this problem. The original aim of doubling the bank every 2 months has not been met and perhaps this would be a good starting point.
At this moment in time and in regards to recent developments we suggest that you AVOID this service.
You can see a full breakdown of my results here: