Spicer Racing – Epsom Bloodstock Agency

| February 12, 2010 | 25 Replies

Geoffrey Spicer

I need more information on this chap and the companies above.  Both are controlled by Geoffrey Spicer and as far as I can tell been around since 2001 at least.

If you get a promotion please can you send me details to moremoneyreview@moremoneyreview.com

Also if you have experience of either please leave it below.

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Category: Betting, Horse Racing, Horse Racing Tipsters, Tipster Services

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  1. Mike Z says:

    I arrived home to-night to find a letter from (EPSOM BLOODSTOCK AGENCY)witen by Geoffery Spicer do any of you out there know of him or had any dealings with agency.
    look forward to your replys Mike Z

  2. Mike Z says:

    Hi All,I phoned Geoffrey Spicer on friday evening who said that they had a runner on Saturday at Wetherby but wanted £250 for a sequence of 10 runners over a period of time.
    Well I managed to convince him that if he disclosed the name to me that should it win I would enclose a cheque for £100 and I would have as I am a man of my word.
    The name of the horse was JACKDAY in the 1-45 at Wetherby.
    Well in the morning 9/2 was available with a few firms by the time I managed to get mt bet on it was 4/1, on the off at one stage he was 3/1jfav.
    I had £200 at 4/1 i must say it ran a very good race but it just filtered out on the run in.
    But I did feel as though I had a run for my money. (according to At The Races it entered in a race again on Tuesday.
    Once again has any one had any dealings with Geoffrey Spicer or the EPSOM BLOODSTOCK AGENCY) I LOOK FORWARD TO ANY REPLIES Mike Z

  3. DG says:

    re Mike Z mail
    The name Spicer may be associated with Lloyd Walters. This would seem to be a scam outfit with a little success but now about time out. Watch out for Richard Arlington who offer free bets which if successful then invite you to pay them up to a thousnd (they ask how much you won each time so rhey know what you have) if you send them money you will hear no more,Watch out for Phil or Bernard.
    Daniel Sullivan is another to be wary of I was involved with them a couple of years ago and paid through the nose. I am too trusting and am easy for them. Be warned these people are so convincing and practiced at deception that you want to believe them. They cant all be bad BUT if they new the winners for sure they arenot going to give this info away. Would You and shorten the price.
    I have haddealings with others and have yet to find a real good un??

  4. jonnyboy says:

    Mike Z I had some dealings with SPICER RACING a few years ago and if its any help they were a bunch of conmen, fleeced me for £1500 ! So be careful, they might not be the same lot, but its an unusual name that i wont forget in a hurry!

  5. Steve says:

    Mike Z

    I too had the letter from GS asking me to phone him at a certain time. After a bit of pondering i ranh him. Again i had the same conversation and thought he sounded pretty genuine, especially as i had managed to get the name of the horse on the understanding that if it won i too would forward onto him his subscription money. Like your horse PENSION FUND ran well and pettered out after the last. It was beaten by a well backed fav of David Pipes. Be aware The Epsom Bloodstock Agency is not listed in ANY reputed directoryand is therefore not what it seems. I think me and my brother have had dealings with Mr Spicer in the past and done our dough with him then.

  6. Mike Z says:

    Hi Guys, I must start by thanking all of you who took the time to reply to my E.mail.
    DG, Jonny Boy, Steve, and Connor Gallagher.
    After reading your comments I must put this down to experience.
    Are there any legitimate ie PUKKA services out there.
    I am not looking for information on a Daily or even on a weekly occasion,just genuine informtion that can be trusted. We all know that we a dealing with animals and occasionally it can back fire (for instance a horse entered to-day NAME Tilt should have won easily but instead got left at the start and gave away 20 lengths,odds 4/6 thats racing regards Mike Z

  7. Tim J says:

    Re: Geoffery Spicer, thanks for the heads up Mike Z – I’ll bin it!

  8. BJ says:

    There are very few genuine tipsters out there,one that I would recommend is a guy by the name of Ian Lewington a genuine guy who tries very hard with some success.He does not charge a lot his website is winningselections.co.uk. Another source of information I use is informracing.com they are not tipsters but they do provide useful information that helps in making choices also not expensive.

  9. jims2008 says:

    I have not had anything from G. Spicer but would still like to know if S.W.Racing is anything to do with SureWin Racing. By the way, Poirot would be most upset! He speaks with a Belgian accent.

    Regards

  10. Jack Whiteman says:

    jims2008 – yes I suspect S.W.Racing is Surewin Racing.

    You can read more on Surewin here:
    http://www.moremoneyreview.com/surewin-racing-club-review-530.html

    Regards
    Jack Whiteman
    Moderator

  11. Brian says:

    Hi

    Regagding Spicer racing – I did join there tipping service many years ago following a mails shot that listed a stream of winners and very few that lost. As it was not too much to join I subscribed and soon found out that they were not very good.

    Surprisingly the bets (a lot less than in their mailshot) were a bit few and far between and with not many winners in that time. But what sealed it that they were a con/scam outfit was when several months later I received another mailshot from then listing numerous winners in the time that I joined – winners that were totally fabricated and were the horses that were put up on the phone line.

    Leave well alone

    Brian

  12. Brian says:

    Recent with corrections to text as 1st text has errors.

    Hi

    Regarding Spicer racing – I did join there tipping service many years ago following a mailshot that listed a stream of winners and very few that lost. As it was not too much to join I subscribed and soon found out that they were not very good.

    Surprisingly the bets (a lot less than in their mailshot) were a bit few and far between and with not many winners in that time. But what sealed it that they were a con/scam outfit was when several months later I received another mailshot from them listing numerous winners in the time that I joined – winners that were totally fabricated and were not the horses that were put up on their phone line.

    Leave well alone

    Brian

  13. Lawrence says:

    I HAD DEALINGS WITH A GROUP CALLED EPSOM BLOODSTOCK AGENCY THIS WAS AS FAR BACK AS 1994/5 AND THE NAME GEOFFERY SPICER RINGS A BELL, BUT IT WAS TO PUT A BET ON FOR THEM £30 I THINK ,WELL IT WON BEING BACKED INTO 9/4 FAV AT LAST I THOUGHT A GENUINE TIPSTER, WELL AFTER 10 LOSERS AND A CONSIDERABLE LOSS ALTHOUGHT I DID NOT BACK THEM ALL HE DID TELL ME HE WAS UNHAPPY WITH HIS CONNECTIONS AND THINGS WOULD GET BETTER HE GIVE ME ONE MORE TIP AND SAID TO ONLY TAKE HALF OF MY LOSSES OUT AND SEND THE REST TO HIM THE HORSE WAS MIDNIGHT LEGEND IT WON AT 9/1 I DID BACK IT BUT HE GOT NOTHING HE DID RING LOOKING SOMETHING BUT I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS FINISHED AND HAVE NEVER HEARD OF HIM AGAIN THANK GOODNESS

  14. doug watts says:

    i would advice all punters to stay away from mr spicer, as right he is a crook i have had 33 tips off him and had 5 winners and im now looseing £1200, i carried on with his tips hopeing to get my money back, just last week found out mr spicer was on holiday and a man called graham had took over and the first thing he asked was for us to put a bet on for him and this lost

  15. Andy says:

    Twin brothers from Brighton have each been jailed for seven years after being convicted of obtaining around £5 million in a horse racing betting scam.

    Paul and Gregory Spicer, 35, were found guilty of conspiracy to defraud following a five-week trial at Brighton Crown Court, a Sussex Police spokesman said.

    A third man, Lee O’Donnell, 62, was jailed for 21 months for his lesser role in the scheme, which was carried out over a four-year period.

    Police were first alerted to the scam in 2006 following complaints from victims throughout the UK who had received unsolicited leaflets through the post advertising a scheme to join a horse racing betting syndicate.

    The series of leaflets and brochures were printed including the names John ‘Jock’ McCracken, Robert Carter Racing, and Paul Howell Racing.

    Paul Spicer, of Dyke Road, Brighton, Gregory Spicer, of The Drove, Brighton, and O’Donnell, of Eaton Gardens, Hove, were then arrested last year following a joint investigation between Sussex Police’s major fraud unit and London Borough of Merton Trading Standards, codenamed Operation Cantonese.

    The three men were found to have conspired with each other and with others between April 30 2003 and February 13 2008 to defraud prospective and actual participants in various purported betting services and purported investment services, doing so by making false claims in relation to the investment services and seeking and receiving payment in relation to that which the services referred to.

    Restraint orders have been put in place for the defendants’ possessions and police now plan formal confiscation proceedings against them.

  16. Andy says:

    My previous post is taken from an article in the Brighton Argus.

  17. denzal d says:

    hi i had spicer ring me up last year 2009 he gave me a winning tip wich won he asked me to put 25 on it (i first refused 100 ),but when he rang me about payment the number he rang me from came up on my phone as jack ryan a bloke who gave me a couple of bets that didnt win the previous year i mentioned this to him he gave some cock and bull story and demanded i sent him his winnings i simply told him to f off and put the phone down,ive still got his no.

  18. unlucky says:

    is this g spice still in operation could he be working under a new name

  19. bustermoan says:

    yes this personis still on the go offering 10 advices for a fee of £250 heres the punch line his first advice which could not loose was kato stone at cheltenham on saturday 26 and you all know how this got on BEWARE andy

  20. brimar says:

    Just had a flyer in the post from Epsom Bloodstock Agency.
    Directors are shown as:
    Graham Forster & N Morris.
    Address:
    Racing Advisory Dept
    Stableford House
    21a West Street
    Epsom
    Surrey
    KT18 7RL
    Tel: 01372 747 151
    Are these the same scam artists as mentioned above?? And if so, how can they just resurface and carry on as before?

  21. Martin West says:

    They are obviously still operating. I’ve received a flyer in the post today dated September 2015. Details are all as the above post. Think I’ll give it a miss.

  22. brigot says:

    Just had a mailshot from Epsom Bloodstock Agency – Directors, Graham Forster & N Morris.
    I can take advantage of…”a fantastic one-time only ground-floor offer with a massive discount”.
    £600 (normally £1,500) for two full years (under Full Money Back Guarantee). Well sounds like a bargain to me…think not. I’ve come across them before and I certainly wouldn’t send them a penny – just doesn’t sound right to me.

  23. ryster says:

    well they’re still going as per brimar post above, 11/09/15

    half price £40 for 4 weeks £100 for 12.

    has anyone had dealings?

  24. tripeworks says:

    I have also had the same post today offering £750 for a year normal price and £350 bargain discount at the moment. None of these tipsters in my experience are any good, just scammers. Many years ago I rang one called Stable Buzzers and the horse, I still remember it’s name. was called Standard Rose. It’s form was a string of duck eggs yet it hosed up at 14-1. I never saw the ad again! Typical…

  25. tripeworks says:

    I also recall another tipster I tried many years ago who was tippng one of Peter Bowens horses for the Mackeson as it was then. He assured his customers the horse had been laid out for the race and was expected to win. As it happens Peter Bowen is an old school mate of mine and he was quite surprised to hear what was expected of his horse. He said it was unlikely to even run and withdrew it on the day. I accused the tipster of writing utter BS and demanded a refund which promptly arrived!

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